![]() MRC: Yes! The Hanged Man Card came up often in my readings over the last few years–I started calling it the Pandemic Card. So I’m really grateful to you for the chance to memorialize this project and this process so I don’t forget it, haha! I keep coming back to the hashtag #ThePandemicMadeMeDoIt which I used to add at the end of my instagram posts, because Chancletazo For Your Soul really maps my own Fool’s journey-my own El Chavo journey-through the pandemic, from one job to another, one life stage to another.ĪJT: I think that’s why we were so excited to have La Cuarentena as the cover of the issue, too, yes? But if I didn’t take photos of the readings or follow up with notes, whatever I said during a session would just disappear. It’s like I channel things in the moment of hyper-intense connection. But afterwards-it’s weird-I forget what was said. I find myself being so in it, so attuned to their little moments. I even get goosebumps when I hear someone say something that is clearly so very true for them, something that perhaps they are just realizing aloud for the first time. I get very invested in those one-hour conversations. I’ve learned something surprising about myself as I’ve done more of these. MRC: I so appreciate you sharing that with me. And two, what is the experience like for you on the other side? It was one of the most singularly effective and beautiful conversations I’ve ever had. You are really, really good at doing readings. I still have the cards you pulled for me pinned up by my desk. My conversation with you crystalized and named so many things. How do I survive? What do I really want? What should I do next? What opportunities does this give me?ĪJT: Angie gifted me a tarot reading session with you when I started officially as Aster(ix) Managing Editor because she knew I was feeling worried about finishing my first novel. Many of my readings were for artists whose livelihoods had been upended by the pandemic, so they were very big questions to explore. People allowed themselves to be more vulnerable, I think. ![]() Readings are a very intimate experience, and because it was a time when it was impossible to be together in person, we had to find other ways to connect. Mujer Que Pregunta (my tarot and Process Doula practice) began as a gift from one woman of color to another. In the early pandemic, I did a reading on Zoom for Angie Cruz, and then she wanted to have me do one for a friend. MRC: I can’t remember the exact moment I first picked up tarot cards, but I saw from old diaries that I was reading them for myself in college. How did you start to become involved with tarot and doing readings for people? The cards then become helpful visual reminders to distill big ideas and complicated situations. Today, many people use tarot as a way of constructive conversation, a kind of therapy. This work was and is collaborative.ĪJT: Tarot was first invented in Italian courts in the 15th century, and has evolved with usage and meaning. If I didn’t have the container of the Aster(ix) artist residency, and especially the loving support from you and Angie Cruz, I never would have finished Chancletazo for Your Soul, punto. Marlène Ramírez-Cancio (MRC): We did it! I really do feel that. We hope you enjoy–and don’t forget to ask yourself The Big Questions.Īmanda Tien, Editor of The Tarot Issue & Angie Cruz, Aster(ix) Editor-in-ChiefĪmanda Tien (AJT) : You did it! You’ve been making this project for close to two years! We are proud and honored of the collaborative nature of this work. In Fall 2022, Amanda suggested this special all-color issue to feature Chancletazo for Your Soul from start-to-finish. Amanda re-posted these cards on every few weeks as Marlène made them from Fall 2020 onwards. Aster(ix) then established an Artist-in-Residence feature-for which Marlène was the inaugural resident artist. So, for fun, she began to experiment with visual art by adding collage to the widely used 1909 Smith-Rider-Waite deck.Īngie soon introduced Marlène to Aster(ix)’s Managing Editor, Amanda Tien. Marlène joked the reading was a “chancletazo for the soul.”ĭuring tarot readings, Marlène found herself frequently referencing Latinx cultural icons and concepts when sharing the Major Arcana. ![]() It was a gift, from one woman of color to another. In May 2020, deep in the pandemic, Angie Cruz asked Marlène Ramírez-Cancio to do a tarot reading for someone who needed a push in the right direction.
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